I have 3 choices and am open to suggestions. My 3 choices are between python venom radius, samson street sweeper, or vance and hines straightshots. Any suggestions?
Leave it stock, unless you are a sociopathic jerk.
It will never be fast, so why make it loud and slow? Loud pipes don’t save lives, they just cost us places to ride.
The wife has a 09 hd nightster, and wants to change the exhaust to a vance and Hines short shot, no problem, but harley wants to change the intake, retune and dyno test, so to add a $450. exhaust it is now going to run over $1100, is all this necessary?
STAY AWAY FROM POWER COMMANDERS!!!!!….Especially on Sportsters and Softails, there is very little room to mount them, and they only control fuel, nothing else.
This question is being asked ALOT the last couple days….
The other two answers are both semi-correct, but there is more info that you should know.
I just asked a questions here earlier asking why people make such uninformed decisions when purchasing injection tuners…comparing the PC and such to Screamin Eagle’s SUPER TUNER….read the question info and posts, if you have any questions, email me here through my profile and I will be happy to help……. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AkZTFy82V8Mdv7H_xV8E1Nvsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20100404103549AAdemN7
HD’s injection will allow for a slight exhaust change with no mods, meaning a Screamin Eagle slip-on muffler, for better sound. However, The V&H Short Shots are for looks only, they are not good performance pipes at all…they are TOO SHORT and too free-flowing, even with tuning, they will not offer very good perfromance (they also tend to cause exhaust soot build-up on the wheel area). On top of that, the exhaust bracket on the Sporty’s and Softails is also the exhaust cross-over, which helps make torque, eliinate that, you will lose alot of mid-range torque, the mid-range is where most of your riding is done and where you need the power the most.
Everyone wants better sound, but what about making the bike run CORRECTLY, more effieciently, more power….all this will actually make the engine run easier with less strain, it will make it run cooler which will make it last longer.
If you open up the exhaust, you should open up the intake and let more air in…but…if you do this, you MUST remap the injection to give it more fuel.
Properly tuned, with a GOOD set of pipes, a Screamin Eagle air cleaner or Arlen Ness Big Sucker (very good air cleaner) and proper tuning, you can pick up about 10-12 hp and about the same in torque.
Two similar questions… http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100403172656AAyGT23&r=w#Ar5pX0HjA2L6e.81NFr.
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The pipes are a slash cut and they still send my exhaust to my back fender.
Have you looked at the Vance & Hines website or eBay?
I want to buy a 2010 Harley Sportster iron 883 and I want to put a VANCE & HINES BIG RADIUS EXHAUST. I just come from the dealer and they told me that it will cost me $1700. I was told that the exhaust cost $600, I need to get a filter $200 and fuelpak $300. I guess the rest are tuning and installation. Is this realy the case and are there alternatives?
Thanks
PLEASE contact me, I have some advice for you, but too much to write here. Email me here through my profile with your regular email address so I can write you.
To do an exhaust job PROPERLY, it can be pricey, BUT…not as expensice as they are telling you.
DO NOT use the V&H Fuel Pack!!!…..DO NOT use ANY type of "piggy-back" add-on fuel module!!!….Go with the Screamin Eagle Super Tuner…you won’t regret it!!!
If a Harley DEALER is recommending the Fuel Pack…Stay Away from them, they don’t know their @$$ from a hole in the ground…The Screamin Eagle Super Tuner is FROM HD, and THE most advanced/tunable system on the market and is made specifically for HD’s Delphi Injection system.
A friend of mine just had his 09 Fat Boy done…V&H Staggered Duals $600, Screamin Eagle Air Cleaner $150, Screamin Eagle SUPER TUNER $400, and DYNO TUNING $250….$1400 TOTAL….and he picked up 12hp and 8ft/lb of Torque (would have been higher with a better choice in pipes)
im looking at upgrading my FXDS from stock exhaust to vance and hines shortshots, but since the pipes are shorted (obviously) do i need to be concerned about exhaust fumes either stinking up or damaging my right side saddle bag and its contents?
If I were you I would be more concerned about the added noise without any real performance the short-shots provide. Add the higher cost of the pipes vs. the screamin’ eagle equivalent, the remapping (or re-jetting) & airbox mods.
Its your bike, outfit it the way you want, but at least look at the S/E slip-ons. They at least add performance, and will extend below the saddlebag and would not be cause for any concern whatsoever, and give a better sound than the V&H’s. Surdyke at one time had the best price on Screamin’ Eagle pipes.
Baffles are pipes with holes (louvers) in them to dissipate the exhaust noise. Think of a cheese grater rolled into a tube.
i can make diffferent mounting brckets i just want to know if they will bolt up right and sit good
I looked forever in the Vance & Hines catalog but wasn’t able to find any longshots for your particular ride. A little word of advice, if you do find somewhere that sells Vance & Hines Longshots you’d be MUCH better off getting the "BIGSHOTS" instead. They are a little more money but here is the "big" difference—>the LONGSHOTS are 2 individual pipes from the engine to the tips,,,the BIGSHOTS look identical "except" there is a "crossover" near the rear of the system (not seen unless you were bent down looking between the pipes). The reason for that crossover is to give you the performance of a 2-in-1 system but with a 2-in-2 look and sound. I have this system on my ‘89 Harley FLHTC (Dresser) and if you find it for your bike i highly recommend the BIGSHOTS. Another thing to check is any difference between your Spirit and maybe the Aero or Ace, regarding their exhaust. If its all the same then maybe you should look under those 2 models for your Vance & Hines also,,,,good luck
I have a 2008 Nightster Harley, and just installed some black Vance and Hines short shots exhaust with standard baffles, and I was wondering if they were illegal. I read up on them before purchasing, and did not see anything about them being illegal, I knew they were loud, but they seem too loud. Plus the Harley dealerships will put them on for you, it would seem that if they were illegal they wouldn’t be allowed to install them…
Does anyone know if they are illegal in the state of Texas?
Thanks for the responses, they do have baffles, but are very nonrestrictive baffles. I think I read somewhere that they sit at about 97db, which is very illegal, based on noise ordinances, but that is regional from my understanding.
The dealer will sell and install anything you want to part you from your money.Here in Tx they can get you for noise from un baffled pipes.And the way the EPA regs are going soon it will be illegal to have any pipes besides stock ones put on a bike.
I am considering Cobra and Vance Hines pipes. Prices is not a big consideration. Are there other companies with performance pipes that i should consider?
Vance and hines long shots sound pretty good on the 1100. They will also give you a modest performance increase.
V&H has an 800 # call them and ask